she looks like her neck is in a strain (fwiw)-

pretty lady-


I absolutely love the closeup-


the drawing or sketch is great!-

Since I always try to disagree with Tom, I take back what I said. I think your original instinct with the angles was right. It's just that her neck and shoulders are a little stiff, like she's holding her breath maybe?

This is my favorite of the three - I agree with Thusie about the wing - if we didn't know it would be a WTF is that?

Yes but if you don't know it is the top of an angel wing???? Does it really need to be there? I don't think she should lean towards the floor more just relax a bit more

So do you mean I should have her lean in towards the floor more? She's coming over again with some family to help with, well, you know. That my dear is the top of a angel wing.

Lovely lady. I prefer this one. Still get the feeling of stiffness? Shoulder needs to be a bit more relaxed maybe? Also wht is that just above her shoulder on my right?

I agree A's suggestion was great. As far as the basic, I mean it when Nonda states that of her shots which all know they certainly aren't basic.

i generally try to disagree with whatever Andrea has to say, but this does leave the neck looking a lot more relaxed. thought you didn't like the word 'basic' -- maybe that was someone else?